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  Ancient Biblical Incest leads to Racism

  by gumby in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  cavallino lot & his lusty daughters

  "and they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.

  thus were both the daughters of lot with child by their father.

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  Gum.

  I didnt think you were a biblical racist. Its just I spent 3 years studying and mixing with them. They were pretty fascinating people, so I have this impulse to talk about them and expound my knowledge.
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  WHAT TYPE OF PERSON BECOMES A JEHOVAHS WITNESS RELIGION BASED ON LIES

  by nightwarrior in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  why do people become ( jehovahs witnesess ) .. 1) man wants to serve god his inherent desire is to please the creator,some see the wicked works of christendom and form an acurate decision in staying away due to christendom not following gods word,.

  yet blindly and stubornly they cling to a sect which lies cheats ,gives missleading bible inacuracies to all its members,all in the name of jehovah god,false to jehovah and jesus in every way possible , started as a company selling magazines,copied king james version of the bible,alterd most of its main contents,was a member of the united nations for ten years or more, never informed its members of its worldly alliance,has millions of pounds or dollars in real estate is into commercial enterprise,part of the rand corporation dealing in scud misile engines, .

  harbours nasty child molesters within there ranks of christian men and women.

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  I noticed a poster say something the other day about their husband being convinced the dub belief was "logical". I think a lot of people are convinced by the simplistic reasonings, such as the math of 607 plus 2520 equals 1914. Of course, such people are not inclined much to personal research and probably dont read books much.

  Also, Ive had a dub visiting me recently. Its quite clear that he knows the org has a lot of holes in some of its theories, but he is convinced that their refusal to fight in war and their going from door to door is sufficient proof of their genuine love of neighbour to identify them as the true religion.

  Just a couple of thoughts.
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  Ancient Biblical Incest leads to Racism

  by gumby in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  cavallino lot & his lusty daughters

  "and they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.

  thus were both the daughters of lot with child by their father.

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  Gum.

  More to the scriptural beliefs of biblical racists:

  Racist church leaders say that the Jewish nation has not fullfilled prophecy that the white nations, especially America and Britain, have fullfilled. Such as:

  The Israel nation shall become secure. 2 Samuel 7 v 1. The Israel nation shall be safe on every side. 2 Samuel 7 v 10. Israel shall possess the earth. Psalm 2 v 8.

  Heres a good one. Deutronomy 15 v 6 " You will rule over many nations, but they will not rule over you" .

  God speaking of Israel there. A Biblical racist would say, "When did the jews rule over many nations" ? and claim that only European culture has achieved this. So this is why they believe that America and England are the foremost tribes of Israel. Of course, theres a lot of pick and choose in the choice of scriptures they use to support their arguements. Not unlike the dubs really.

  Many thanks for your expression of interest. And always remember, you can better fight an enemy if you understand his thinking.
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  Say goodbye...Armaggedon 15/ 05/ 03

  by refiners fire in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ive been looking at an interesting site by a woman who receives transmissions from aliens called the zeta.

  apparently the world as we know it will end may 15th when planet nibiru / marduk passes so close to our earth that an apocalypse will occur.

  it last passed by when the noachian flood occurred.

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  Regrettably, it appears, "some" have misapprehended some of the things that the Zeta have stated relevant to the passage of Nibiru on 15th May, 2003, and this planets being "visible to the naked eye" by the middle of April. Thus the zeta find it necessary to re explain some things about the approaching Nibiru planet. Firstly, there are those who have become "overexcited" and visualize, in their own imaginations, a huge planet FILLING the sky as it bears down upon a COLLISION course with the earth. This is not what the Zeta have said will occur. To explain :

  We have stated that Planet X will be visible in the daytime sky, 7 weeks before passage. Given that we have stated that passage is shortly after May 15, 2003, as at this time those wanting to survive should be at their safe locations, this is putting the visibility into the last week of March at the earliest. We have stated that the Planet X complex, the planet body itself and its immediate cloud of dust and moons, will appear not larger than the Moon upon passage. As can be seen from the recent imaging, starting with Dec. 13-14 images and quite obvious in the Dec. 27-28 images, the swirls of moons are far outside of the immediate area of the Planet X body. Thus, upon passage the object seen as not larger than the moon is the Planet X body and close hugging dust cloud and moons, but the swirls trail back, some 5 million miles behind the Planet X body

  Fellow believers, what this means is that Nibiru, along with its accompanying moons, and 5 MILLION MILE long 'dust cloud' will appear visually, NOT LARGER than about a 1/4 inch across at its CLOSEST point of passage to earth. Thus, those who imagine a huge planer visible in the sky, shall be disappointed.Also:

  Planet X is visible when at the orbit of Saturn, by the unaided eye and during the day, where Saturn is not, for the same reasons it is visible now. Is it a star, sending starlight to the amateur scopes? No, but it is a brown dwarf, exuding heat and light, thus the predominance in the red light spectrum. Comets, those dirty snowballs well inside the solar system, are found before they outgas and reflect sunlight only by sophisticated means. They are certainly not visible to the unaided eye, even when close, until they start to fan out their tails, close enough to the sun to start outgassing from the heat of the sun. This gives some notion of the importance of reflecting sunlight to those objects not ordinarily giving forth their own heat or light waves. When it reaches the orbit of Saturn, it will be much smaller than the Moon we have placed as comparison during passage. And it will be reddish, blurring about the sides as the moon swirls waft from side to side.

  What this means, as I understand it brethren, is that Nibiru IS visible, or rather, it is visible when SATURN is not in the way. A regrettable matter to be sure. But even so, as the planet has no light emitting capacity of its own it can only be seen via reflected light and red dust surrounding a very dark planet doesnt refect much light.

  Just a couple of points to clarify the planets remaining invisble to many who are searching for it.

  ( Zetatalk website. Article: "April 2003" )
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  The Murderous God of the Old Testament.....

  by searchfothetruth in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was talking to an ex-jw earlier and he hadn't heard the story in 2 kings about the brutal murder by god of 42 'small boys'.

  2 kings 2:23-24:.

  " and he proceeded to go up from there to bethel (how appropriate).

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  search for.

  In the OT, the males of all ages were unquestionably exterminated.In many instances, however, the females who were virgin and had "not known a man" were spared to a life as servants.
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  Ancient Biblical Incest leads to Racism

  by gumby in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  cavallino lot & his lusty daughters

  "and they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.

  thus were both the daughters of lot with child by their father.

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  Gumbo.

  One of the Biblical racists key lines of reasoning is that the "jews" dont recognize Christ, and yet Christ declares that his Israel people will hear his voice. As Christianity is chiefly established in European culture then the Europeans must be Israel, but they are blinded to their "identity".

  Another line of reasoning is that the Israelites in the OT were predicted to be "great and mighty", subduing other nations, and the Jews have not done this. The world has been dominated by European culture. Attempts at creating a multiracial society and integrating the white Israelite with 'mud people' is a Satanic plot to totally destroy Israels blood purity.

  All demonstrable from the Bible. Matthew 15 verse 24 is a chief scripture that Biblical racists love to use.
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  Ancient Biblical Incest leads to Racism

  by gumby in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  cavallino lot & his lusty daughters

  "and they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.

  thus were both the daughters of lot with child by their father.

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  Gumby.Yes, all the "enemy" nations are descended from sin of one kind or another. The OT is quite clearly interpretable that the sin of race mixing / blood mixing is a serious matter. hence Noahs "generations were pure", his blood was not broken down with mixing. Hence all the Biblical racists getting around. Most of these are Jew haters. They think the white European man is "Israel" (again, demonstrable from the OT) and that the "jew" is actually a mongrel usurper line of blood that is trying to steal our heritage.

  I really must get around to posting a thread explaining their scriptural reasoning one of these days.
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  If you could have been in any past movie...........it would be....??

  by ScoobySnax in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well what movie would you have like to have been in?

  any film, at any time.

  i would have to say any of the starwars films...i've always wanted to whip out my light saber, and make that "arcking" sound they make.

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  "Deliverance".

  Id like to play the middle aged,repressed hero who, under extremis, discovers his buried primitive, savage nature
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  Oooh! DREAMCATCHER! OOH!!!!

  by plmkrzy in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  oh oh ohohohoh.... check out this trailer for the new suspense thriller comming soon.

  oohoohooh.

  http://dreamcatchermovie.warnerbros.com/cmp/main-fr.html

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  Have you seen "X Men 2" yet?

  Is it any good. As good Aussies we are Hugh Jackman fans and will go see it.
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  Another Apocalyptic No-Show - "Planet X"

  by Nathan Natas in

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  2. friends

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  those of you who follow news of phenomena and the fringe of science probably know what i'm talking about - the mysterious planet x is supposed to collide with earth on may 15th.. strangely enough, no astronomer anywhere can detect the approaching planet.

  the reason is simple - it isn't there.. as the ides of may approach, life on planet earth goes on, and shall go on.

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  refiners fire

  ..."who are connected to nasa. may 15th is a date issued by them, and is classic disinfo"....

  Dome. What are they seeking to conceal from us that requires disinformation to be spread?